Haven’t Reparations been paid in the blood of Union Losses?

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I am just putting out some facts that I hope will spur discussion.

Let’s review the historical facts of the Civil War.

According to the 1860 U.S. Census the Population of the United States was 31,183,582.

The total population that were Free was 27,233,198. The Total Slave population at the same time was 3,950,528.

Those 3,950,528 Slaves were chattel to at total of 393,975 Slave Holders. In 1860 13% of the entire population of the United States were held in slavery by 8% of the population in 15 slave states of 36 States and territories counted in the 1860 Census.

Union Civil War Losses or those that fought to end Slavery were 360,222 Soldiers sailors and Marines.

The Union armies had from 2,500,000 to 2,750,000 men. Their losses, by the best estimates again were:

Battle deaths:


Disease, etc.:




By the end of the Civil War, roughly 179,000 black men (10% of the Union Army) served as soldiers in the U.S. Army and another 19,000 served in the Navy. Nearly 40,000 black soldiers died over the course of the war—30,000 of infection or disease.

10 thousand Black Men serving in the Union Army died in battle consistent with the rate of 10% serving in the Union Army. 90% of all Union Battle deaths were White Soldiers

Is it inconstant with logic and fairness to hold All White Persons from the Union side any responsibility for slavery?

70% of all immigration happened after 1865. It is unfair to blame any of those that immigrated from Europe and other countries During or after the civil war for Slavery?

Please share your thoughts and added facts so that we might come to some equitable conclusions about this long festering matter……


Questions for discussion:

  1. Do modern White Americans have any responsibility for Slavery?
  2. Do Modern Blacks have a reasonable expectation of Reparations?
  3. Does the blood of 650,000 White soldiers on both sides of the issue deciding the fate of the institution of slavery balance the account for anything?

Look, I don’t have the answers. I do have plenty of questions. Please comment, ask more questions. Lets start a dialog.

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One Response to Haven’t Reparations been paid in the blood of Union Losses?

  1. Branson Hunter
    Branson Hunter September 17, 2017 at 7:18 pm


    Black Americans were not thought of as humans (like white humans). Conversely, Indians we killed like animals, but they were thought of as human. Source: Jefferson’s letters. If questioned, I may post the exact quote and source index from my personal library.

    The Indians wars and genocides were all about land, territory and expansion. Slavery was about profits and a way of life that made it easy for prosperous southern gentlemen to buy slaves to forever work for plantation owner and other Southern whites.

    Who made enormous profits off the civil war? Who pushed for civil war? Could it have been prevented? Those who have will fight to keep what they have. Were they any avenues for compromise for Black Americans to be set free, and treated with human dignity?

    After the war, many slaves stayed on plantains and farms. Many that went free were subjects to homelessness and severe poverty and unspeakable humiliations.

    Reparations for the sins of the Southern slave owner? I think maybe to some degree reparation may be appropriate. Maybe on a scale of a one-time benefits, entitlements, or even currency. And they are creative ways in which to accomplish that. Nonetheless, Dan raises a very interesting question-issue with the header (Haven’t Reparations been paid in the blood of Union Losses?). Should Southern states pay reparations to families of Union men (and some women) who lost their lives fighting Southern slavery?

    Reparation 2: The F-35 is one of the most expensive weapons programs in history, with each jet costing around $138 million and the entire program running up to $339 billion. Many white Americans are not comfortable with the discussion about Reparation. Why is that? I have my suspicions.

    Reparation 3: Isn’t it about time we as a nation seriously address this issue? Of course it is. I believe it’s antipathetic for our nation to skirt reparation. Put racism to bed. Reparation in some form is ripe. One less F-35 jet fighter would pay for any reparation. Lets send a message to Black Americans we want to put racism to rest. Reparation is a good message; It is a start.

    Slavery is prevalent around the world. No one ought to owns people; no country should allow it. We trade, and are chummy with governments, that allow the exploration of humans slaves. We accept slavery in third world countries for our own benefits. Benfits like U.S. Military bases, air strips, access for U.S. oil corporations, etc.

    We are not free until we are all free. Present day Caucasians are not guilty for the sins of slave owners. That is on the South. Had those Southerns had compassion and respect for all human, they would have PROTESTED and worked through the system to denounce slavery: but they did not. Slavery was all about power, prestige, money and keeping humans as slaves to do the work of whites overlords.

    The South would never give up their slaves.
    So many questions; so many unanswered questions.

    My opinions….
    (Please, none of this nonsense about white guilt. That is a bias or bigoted distraction.)


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